WASHINGTON - "Watch your back," the gun dealer warns the ATF Agent in an audio recording obtained by CBS News.It would be nice to know who made these recordings. Was it Howard or someone else?
The secretly recorded conversations are between the primary gun dealer cooperating with ATF in its "Fast and Furious" operation, Andre Howard, and lead case ATF agent Hope MacAllister.
Howard owns Lone Wolf Trading Company in Glendale, Arizona.
Here are the transcripts from the calls:
EXCERPT 1These conversations reportedly took place in March, 2011 which would have been after ATF Agent John Dodson blew the whistle. To this point, we've been led to believe that Howard and his gun store colleagues had objected to directives issued to them by the ATF agents to sell guns to bad guys. If that's true, why would Howard be ostensibly wishing for a coverup, as these recordings indicate? Again, knowing who made these recordings would help to clarify that.
Dealer: Question: do your people have any confidence that you can forestall subpoena? Or is it still up in the air?
Agent: No, my understanding is person, the only people that can request a congressional hearing has to be a majority party. Grassley is a Republican.
Dealer: I know.
Agent: And as of right now...
Dealer: In the Senate right.
Agent: Yeh. And as of right now we don't have any interest from anybody in the majority party to the extent that he's shown interest. So even if you wanted to at this point unless he gets CUTS OUT somebody from the majority party to jump on board, he can't...
Dealer: Not on his own no but you know Leahy and rest of 'em these people are snakes, they'll do anything they can...
Agent: My understanding also is that the Attorney General's office is supposed to come out little bit stronger...um...
Dealer: I understand that.
Agent: position...which may or may not, um, you know, help.
Dealer: I'll tell you what I'll give him that, he's got f---ing b---s making that statement. I don't wanna even go there.
Dealer: Until something else happens they're not stupid, Hope, they connect the dots.
Agent: No and you know and all that's fine if Senator Grassley wants to come in and tell us show us how to work these cases more efficiently more effectively by all means.
Dealer: Don't think Grassley, think Leahy.
Agent: Well, him too. I... I welcome him to come down and work...
Dealer: He's an arrogant b-----d
Agent: So is Grassley though
Dealer: Chuck probably and I don't know a thing about him other than from somebody else I've heard seems to be just somebody who's hitching his wagon to any star to.. for his own aggrandizement.
Dealer: You know that. He's an arrogant
Dealer: individual. Look he's a United States senator there it is right there.
Agent: That's kind of what my suggestion but nobody thought that was funny like if I were a P.I. I'd put him on Grassley, I'm sure there's a lot would go away. Actually my one suggestion was just tell him in a registered Republican. I'm sure if he knew that everything would be fine, they didn't like that either.
Dealer: You gotta be, watch your back. I don't trust these people around you one bit. You've been very lucky so far.
Agent: Again I'll be more than happy to talk to somebody, they won't let me, but more than happy to talk to anybody about the decisions we made.
Dealer: Hope, stay off the screen. You don' t need this sh--. Neither does your husband.
Agent: Believe me I have...
Dealer: You gotta have a f-----g life man.
Agent: I have a file and...
Agent: It's all, it's all public stuff I dont' care.
Dealer: Well don't even convey it in that. I'm sure you do. Hopefully this thing will subside...
Agent: You keep saying that but ?
Dealer: I know.
Dealer: You and I both know how bad it's gonna get I won't bull---t you you don't bull---t me
Agent: Ha ha.
Dealer: my a-- is up here and yours is here here but you're covered I'm out in the open
Agent: Ha ha.
Here is an earlier story from Attkisson that includes the first round of recordings she released.
h/t Sipsey Street